The first Genesis album he bought was Seconds Out and it still remains his favourite live album to this very day. He quickly discovered their back catalogue and the next few years were spent saving up his pocket money, birthday money and indeed Christmas money to buy all their albums.

He started trying to play the guitar as he wanted to be Steve Hackett in his dreams. When he discovered that his fingers were not connected to his brain in the way that discipline required, he really decided he wanted to be Phil Collins instead. He did however play guitar (badly) for a couple of bands in the early 80’s which never amounted to anything until he answered an ad for a singer that was into Genesis. He had never had the confidence to push himself in that direction, but he went for the audition on a whim and got the job. That led to a short lived stint as a singer for a rock covers band until Face Value began and he started “living the dream”.